SCR: What are some of the places you've visited abroad?

JOHNSON: "In the last five years we've been involved with General Motors with the Goodwood Festival of Speed in England. It's a four-day event, and we go early and go somewhere like Italy, France, Scotland, Ireland. We're debating right now maybe going to Australia and then coming back in to England.

"We want them to know a lot about the other countries by the time they get into college and make plans in their life to choose what they want to do."

SCR: What is the Goodwood Festival?

JOHNSON: "It's sort of a showmanship of all the transportation vehicles that have ever been built in the world.

"There'll be cars there 100 years old and cars there brand new. Ford and General Motors and Mercedes and all of them are involved in it. Chrysler.

"You see every kind of vehicle that's been built. It's a festival of speed. They got a course you can run them on and people see the cars run on the course. It's not a race track, but some of them do run pretty fast.

"It's a display of special cars. I say it draws 300,000 to 400,000 over four, five days."

SCR: Are any of your cars represented?

JOHNSON: "I've had the '63 Chevrolet [that won seven races] over there. Also had [over there] the car that Darrell [Waltrip] won his third championship.

"We're gonna try to get Richard Childress to take two of the No. 3 cars over this year.

"They're beginning over there to learn a lot about NASCAR racing. You see a lot of people who are big fans of NASCAR over there. We went to Naples, Italy, and ran into a lot of people who knew a lot about NASCAR there."

SCR: We heard that Pontiac had an offer of $15 million a year on the table for you to return to the sport, but then Pontiac got out altogether. Any truth to that?

JOHNSON: "No.

"They, at one time, were looking at running two cars similar to what Chrysler ran. But there was no offer to me.

"I wouldn't get back into racing. Money is one thing in life. But other things are more valuable to me now than money. That's my kids, my wife, my family. It's something I put a value on more than making money, because I got a way of making money now."

SCR: Have you had any offers lately?

JOHNSON: "Not lately. I had a lot when I first quit, but not lately."

SCR: Do you still feel you could make it in this sport as a team owner?

JOHNSON: "I don't know if I could or not.

"If I didn't have success, I'd probably kill somebody (laughs). I was pretty rough on my guys, anyway."

SCR: Talk about the challenges you face in your current business interests.

JOHNSON: "It's not been a challenge. It's been a safe, sound investment with some people that I've known and grew up with."

SCR: Do you miss the cheering?

JOHNSON: "No.

"I'm a person that looks forward. I don't look backward. I didn't do that as a driver and I've never done that in any walk of my life.

"I retired very young, 34, as a driver. I never looked back at that, and when I quit the car-owner side I didn't look back, either.

"It's time for me to quit and move on with my life, and I made that decision and stuck with it.

"And I haven't regretted it.

"It ain't like, 'Boy, I wish I hadn't done this, I hadn't done that.' Because I ain't looking in that direction."