SCR: What are you most proud of from your career as an owner?

JOHNSON: "The championships you win have to be the tops of that.

"But winning Daytona and Talladega and all those races, it's pretty hard to have something that you think that you think has topped all that stuff. But we also had four drivers that were the Driver of the Year in our career as car owner.

"We set the standard for several motor companies that didn't think they could win races. And we took their product and turned it into a winner: Like Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, at times a Chevrolet, at times a Ford.

"It was a big thing at our company that we did not let people tell us it could not be done, because we'd proven them to be wrong 99 percent of the time."

SCR: Name the top-five drivers all-time in NASCAR:

JOHNSON: "That would be very hard for me to do.

"I think I had probably three of them--but your naming people that you think and leaving out people you shouldn't leave out.

"I'd rather not comment on that, to tell you the honest truth, because I don't like to separate myself from a lot of those drivers--the ones I drove against and the ones I had drive my cars.

"I've always said I thought A.J. Foyt was the best all-around driver that I had ever seen. A lot of the drivers that came from other places came in here and proved to be great drivers here.

"But we just had so many good drivers, I'd hate to comment on one or the other.

"You take Buck Baker, Herb Thomas, Fireball Roberts, Marvin Panch.

"Just on and on and on.

"Curtis Turner, Cale Yarborough, Darrell Waltrip, Bill Elliott, Bobby Allison.

"You cannot leave one of them out and say that the other one was better than he was, because you have a day and a time when nobody can beat you. And that's in your prime. And when that's over with, you look back and say, 'Well, so-and-so might have been a better driver than he was in his prime.

"Richard Petty has won more races than anybody else, but if I had to classify Richard as being the best race driver in NASCAR, I couldn't say that. Because I know some who were as good as he was.

"Equipment made a big difference in drivers, too. Who knows? The best driver might have had the worst equipment. Never did show up.

"We've been fortunate. We've had a bunch of great race drivers in this sport. And I think that's what made it. It, and all the combination of things--you look back over and you can just grab 15 or 20 items that help promote and make the sport what it is. And drivers were one of them."